Interestingly, there is further room for manouver to “shake” the data, by taking it from WHERE you want e.g. primarily from within city precincts but leave out the too hard to get to sites, like Siberia. In addition the Kyoto measurement of emissions excludes the uptake of GHGs (C02, Ch4, H20 and N20) by all old forests, and other vegetation (grass , bush, weeds, crops, some aided by soil/ plant companion micro organisms, fungus, algae and bacteria, and earthworms etc.) These elements are consequently sequestered in the timber/soil… and eventually recycled. This system provides Oxygen to the atmosphere.

The whole emissions measurement scene is ridiculous… especially for us in the Southern Hemisphere!

4.4% of the apparent C02 emissions comes from the southern hemisphere, which holds 7% of the land mass. Thus 97% of these emissions comes from the Northern Hemisphere containing 93% of the land! New Zealand, Australia and South Africa are not big emitters

Reality: The Northern hemisphere holds the most humans. All the issues surrounding global warming are driven by us humans motivated by greed for, or the maintenance of, status, wealth, and power. Globally, we humans cause the damage to the planet and we disrupt the natural cycles and systems.

Many thanks Paul : We can learn from China, who will likely provide the most intelligent actions and outcomes.

Interestingly, there is further room for manouver to “shake” the data, by taking it from WHERE you want e.g. primarily from within city precincts but leave out the too hard to get to sites, like Siberia. In addition the Kyoto measurement of emissions excludes the uptake of GHGs (C02, Ch4, H20 and N20) by all old forests, and other vegetation (grass , bush, weeds, crops, some aided by soil/ plant companion micro organisms, fungus, algae and bacteria, and earthworms etc.) These elements are consequently sequestered in the timber/soil… and eventually recycled. This system provides Oxygen to the atmosphere.

The whole emissions measurement scene is ridiculous… especially for us in the Southern Hemisphere!

4.4% of the apparent C02 emissions comes from the southern hemisphere, which holds 7% of the land mass. Thus 97% of these emissions comes from the Northern Hemisphere containing 93% of the land! New Zealand, Australia and South Africa are not big emitters

Reality: The Norrthern hemisphere holds the most humans. All the issues surrounding global warming are driven by us humans motivated by greed for, or the maintenance of, status, wealth, and power. Globally, we humans cause the damage to the planet and we disrupt the natural cycles and systems.

Many thanks Paul : We can learn from China, who will likely provide the most intelligent actions and outcomes.

http://www.climatechangefraud.com/behind-the-science/5323-a-cherry-pickers-guide-to-temperature-trends-down-flateven-up

I would really love to see someone like yourself directly address the persuasive arguements presented here…I find myself unable to, although I personally have no doubt that our current practices on all levels are having a devastating effect on the planetary life-support systems by whos grace we live.
Sarah-jane Potts
Sydney

Many thanks,
Danielle

Thanks a second time for bringing the global campaigning side of policy into your assessment, and in particular our work at 350.org.

From the start of 350.org, I’ve always taken heart in Paul Hawken’s thesis in Blessed Unrest of the unrecognized movement around environment and social justice. Public engagement worldwide has more than enough power to shift this debate – the key is making that power seen and felt collectively as a social movement. Because it’s baseline science, and because it’s a scientific data point and not a social value in itself, the 350 ppm target turns out to be a pretty effective movement symbol. We can fill it with our own piece of the demand for a safe climate, and though there are surely disagreements on how we get there, making our power felt collectively requires some hook for the human imagination to link us all together.

I’m now confident we’ll succeed in achieving that recognition on the 24th of October, with Liz Thornton above, and over 1,800 organizers in 141 countries (and growing). The degree to which we’ll succeed, we’ll find out on the night of the 24th, and in the weeks to follow leading into Copenhagen. But these kind of shared moments are what will make all of our work add up to more than the sum of its parts, and give civil society the focused strength to play its part in the global ‘tip’.

Warm regards,
Jeremy Osborn
Berlin, Germany

I always look forward to your prescient commentary.

The worry is, we have yet to hear any positive noises out of Canberra. The world sees us at the cutting front of climate change and we appear to be dragging our feet waiting for market forces to boost the cost of carbon AFTER the ETS is activated in 2011. Hello

We lead the world in carbon emissions per capita 20.56 tonnes. The IPCC is saying this should be about 1 tonne for everyone on the planet. The connection is clear between climate change and worsening water problems. We lead the world down the wrong path on that too. (pending Productivity Commission Report)

Economic rationalists; water and energy corporations have hijacked sane policy and gagged debate.

The trick is to devise means to get this discussion into the headlines. Any ideas?

Your readers are on the ball – now for the rest of the country!

regards,
Bernard Eddy
Australian Water Network

But the American public is dominated by Deniers and Ignorers. Perhaps it will be that the USA is eclipsed, marginalized and impoverished as China rises and takes the lead in true clean energy progress.

Whatever. I for one welcome our new Green Masters – or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whichever I must submit to first!